Irene and Seulgi

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^ what even happened was they stucked in the most horrible rollercoaster ever. I'm glad they find the exit. Last year was such a blissful. And continue to this year and hopefully forever more.
Their minds weren't in right place at that time maybe hence the dream con happened.
I felt heartbroken for them and i don't even know what happened to them. Aigoo, thank goodness we past that.

[Guest]

I can't find seulgi's "let say it just a coincidence" video but i found this instead. .

[Guest]

Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

[Guest]

Stumbled upon this pic in my gallery. This is just too cute.

[Guest]

I can't find seulgi's "let say it just a coincidence" video but i found this instead. .

At 03:05

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Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Just Irene went before FMR, Seulgi went after that, around June but yeah like you said, maybe they found good memomries when cameback there, happy for both of them and happy for us too haha

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Does anyone know when exactly the fmr mv was filmed?

[Guest]

Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

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Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Her song playlist that year should be a clue that she was also going through something personal. The moment Irene and she finally met up, Seulgi just stopped walking alone at night. Seulgi wanted Irene to cover Crown with these lyrics “shut that door for a while” “call me with those allowed lips”. It's hard not to relate it to Seulrene.

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So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Her song playlist that year should be a clue that she was also going through something personal. The moment Irene and she finally met up, Seulgi just stopped walking alone at night. Seulgi wanted Irene to cover Crown with these lyrics “shut that door for a while” “call me with those allowed lips”. It's hard not to relate it to Seulrene.

da
yeahhhh.. sorry but other than the ending of dream concert which happened in june, i don't see it. i don't doubt that seulgi had a rough time during her solo prep but i don't see how this would come in between them

[Guest]

Spoiler

My life is suck but here you are. Hope this can make your life better.

[Guest]

Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

During FMR the whole atmosphere between them was off tbh. The dreamcon was like the peak of everything. I'm not saying it was anything too serious cause like you pointed out they were still interacting but anyone who has followed them for a long time could see that there was none of the comfortable feel between them that we generally see. It's the reason why a lot of anons were pointing out they were beefing. And it's not far fetched to think something might have been going on. Seulgi herself has confessed that she had fought with members and then immediately pretended during schedules. It's normal stuff.

It could've been something as simple Seulgi being stressed cause of her solo. Stress can cause irritations even between best of buddies. Whatever it was, the important thing is they're over it now

[Guest]

Seulgi also booking a romantic trip for her parents to Jeju in 2022 (what even goes on in that prticular year)

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

[Guest]

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

Ikr. That anon post this but didn't noticed that different vibe from them. Compare it to nye. They look awkward on stage but just fine behind the stage. This show that they were just fine during nye. I mention this because i remember someone said they were awkward during nye, maybe on other board. And i personally think the hot n cold moments got even severe last time because wkgs trolling us on old board. That's why it hurt us so bad, more than it should be. Well, thats all in the past already. Let be happy now.

[Guest]

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

Da Even throughout the whole of LUP5, it wasn’t like they were going to show they weren’t okay and interacted when needed just fine but the whole vibe was off and the others were walking on eggshells too

[Guest]

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

Da Even throughout the whole of LUP5, it wasn’t like they were going to show they weren’t okay and interacted when needed just fine but the whole vibe was off and the others were walking on eggshells too

DA others being kinda careful around them is what proved to me that something was going on. I think LUP5 was the time when they slowly started mending things up tho because it was a slight bit awkward but you could see the improvement from dreamcon.

Also remember that one twitter post that indicated that seulrene might have shifted rooms to stay together? They were the only ones who weren't shown at night when the others were saying bye

[Guest]

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

Da Even throughout the whole of LUP5, it wasn’t like they were going to show they weren’t okay and interacted when needed just fine but the whole vibe was off and the others were walking on eggshells too

DA others being kinda careful around them is what proved to me that something was going on. I think LUP5 was the time when they slowly started mending things up tho because it was a slight bit awkward but you could see the improvement from dreamcon.

Also remember that one twitter post that indicated that seulrene might have shifted rooms to stay together? They were the only ones who weren't shown at night when the others were saying bye

DA Yeah I saw that tweet and watched LUP thinking about it. She was supposed to share a room with Wendy but we hear her voice talking to Seulgi instead. She also look a bit haggard before they went to their own rooms so I think that she talked with Seulgi to talk about whatever was happening between them.

[Guest]

So you're telling me Seulgi and Irene both went on separate jeju trips in 2022, right before FMR got released which was the time when they were behaving oddly. In LUP5 also they both avoided talking about their jeju trip at all.

Seems like it was a rough year for them and their relationship, whatever the reason may be and they both decided to visit the place where they made happy memories. I'm so glad to see them over it now

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

[Guest]

Da Even throughout the whole of LUP5, it wasn’t like they were going to show they weren’t okay and interacted when needed just fine but the whole vibe was off and the others were walking on eggshells too

DA others being kinda careful around them is what proved to me that something was going on. I think LUP5 was the time when they slowly started mending things up tho because it was a slight bit awkward but you could see the improvement from dreamcon.

Also remember that one twitter post that indicated that seulrene might have shifted rooms to stay together? They were the only ones who weren't shown at night when the others were saying bye

DA Yeah I saw that tweet and watched LUP thinking about it. She was supposed to share a room with Wendy but we hear her voice talking to Seulgi instead. She also look a bit haggard before they went to their own rooms so I think that she talked with Seulgi to talk about whatever was happening between them.

DA Irene was driving for a long time. If it was me, i won't joined the game. She look so so tired during the game. I admire her so much when i watched this. I feel like they even surprised they were good at kayaking together. Maybe just me. I mean they even have good chemistry in kayaking. I remember laughing over this. Ok, i got distracted. Yes, they probably talking. I think they were quite ok this time like they aren't fighting anymore but didn't get the chill momentum back. The water was not hot anymore but a bit warm kinda thing. They were still cute during this lup, i mean they always cute. What is wrong with me. I miss them. Irene was quite jumpy around this time, a little heartbroken remembering this or was it just me. Make more sense why they were talking after the game, stay together off camera.

[Guest]

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

You didn't offend anyone, but there's a difference between them being distant in public because they might be uncomfortable fanservicing in public or for whatever reason because they do that a lot and any longtime fan is used to it, and the completely off vibes they were having post fmr. That ott awkwardness and odd behavior was too glaring not to notice. They have always had that ease even if they don't interact. And even if you didn't pick up on it then, dreamcon was too in your face. Seulgi would never ignore Irene crying on stage, we've seen how she acts when Irene is sick or uncomfortable. Plus the way Irene avoided her and almost stumbled doing it was also too obvious. And unpopular opinion, I'm someone who likes and ships them but don't think they're together or anything and even I don't believe it was due to debut stress or whatever professional excuse most believe caused it.

[Guest]

Sorry but did I miss something? Why was it a rough year for their relationship?
This was them on FMR release


and the famous Seulrene Pat & Mat posted by Seulgi 2 days before dream con


I'm not really following the divorce era hehe
I think that was the time Seulgi was working on her Solo debut so her mood is all over the place but I didn't think it relates to Seulrene's relationship.

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

Da There's difference before and after Jeju. The old fandom used to jest that they were the "tragic ship" because they looked good together but had limited moments. Heck, even WR had more moments than them. Back then, I didn't find their dynamic suspicious. They seemed constrained by age dynamics, which no longer seem to apply. It feels like Seulgi has gained more control, and Irene allows her, something she didn't do before. They appear more equal, and "unnie" now feels more like a nickname rather than an honorific. As for something that must have been missed, it was simply DreamCon. I'm relieved it's over, and they're so so much happier now. The glow from their happiness together goes beyond my phone screen.

[Guest]

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

You didn't offend anyone, but there's a difference between them being distant in public because they might be uncomfortable fanservicing in public or for whatever reason because they do that a lot and any longtime fan is used to it, and the completely off vibes they were having post fmr. That ott awkwardness and odd behavior was too glaring not to notice. They have always had that ease even if they don't interact. And even if you didn't pick up on it then, dreamcon was too in your face. Seulgi would never ignore Irene crying on stage, we've seen how she acts when Irene is sick or uncomfortable. Plus the way Irene avoided her and almost stumbled doing it was also too obvious. And unpopular opinion, I'm someone who likes and ships them but don't think they're together or anything and even I don't believe it was due to debut stress or whatever professional excuse most believe caused it.

I would also agree that Seulgi would never ignore Irene crying on stage. Though I'm not sure if I should share this because I wasn't able to bookmark or ever searched it back and I don't have a proof on it. It's hangul so it's hard to search (please take it with a grain of salt) but from what I read on one of those curious cat kind of things but for koreans in twitter where people would ask question and they would answer. Someone mentioned that they saw Seulgi was trying to comfort Irene when they went off stage. I was also concerned, was curious and started digging though the moment I read the tweet, I had this sigh of relief but I didn't looked back on it. A lot of kluvies thought that Irene started crying because of the overwhelming cheer +crowd (coz covid, no crowd in a long time). These are only from what I read back then it was live happening. So the way I understand on what happened on dream con was really different.
however on the other things, maybe I've really gotten really numb with those awkwardness.
Yes, totally respect any other opinions and beliefs. Thank you for making me understand. There wasn't any forum like this about seulrene so I'm glad

[Guest]

Da kinda funny you posted this, if you have been a fan for long you'd notice that none of these moments were typical them. The atmosphere was so odd, people were noticinf even before dreamcon that something was off, because with them even when they don't interact you can tell when things are fine. Irene being this clingy live on radio while Seulgi was basically avoiding keeping eye contact during the radio was pretty telling. This whole period was basically one being hot the other being cold continuously, when you notice one trying the other looks not here for it. The festival they did was also off, keep in mind they said before that they pretend everything was fine in public when things aren't.

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

Da There's difference before and after Jeju. The old fandom used to jest that they were the "tragic ship" because they looked good together but had limited moments. Heck, even WR had more moments than them. Back then, I didn't find their dynamic suspicious. They seemed constrained by age dynamics, which no longer seem to apply. It feels like Seulgi has gained more control, and Irene allows her, something she didn't do before. They appear more equal, and "unnie" now feels more like a nickname rather than an honorific. As for something that must have been missed, it was simply DreamCon. I'm relieved it's over, and they're so so much happier now. The glow from their happiness together goes beyond my phone screen.

Bang on with this. Earlier I wouldn't have thought much at all because like other anon said seulrene have always limited their moments on cam. But after jeju there was such a visible shift in their dynamics that the whole fmr-dreamcon era seemed so weird

[Guest]

I've been following Seulrene since 2016 so these things are not new. It was worse back then in 2017-18. They started distancing themselves and prob. because of the growing fanbase. I felt I've lived of on the most miniscule of interactions but it made me a lot more sus than ever cause of it. What happened to seulrene/aseul in 2020 was a new world. I even thought they would get back to normal eventually since they're just promoting & they can cover up their married interactions as fanservice. Avoiding eye contact was a such a thing with seulrene since (it was hot & cold too). . so them being like this in 2022 didn't really bothered me as such. I'm sorry if I ever offended anybody with this. I've noticed that my understanding of seulrene is really different from others perspective of them. After the Jeju thing, they started to loosen up but from what I see they're still so protective on how they interact in public. I'm trying to understand your perspective in this that's why I asked if I missed something but thank you for telling

You didn't offend anyone, but there's a difference between them being distant in public because they might be uncomfortable fanservicing in public or for whatever reason because they do that a lot and any longtime fan is used to it, and the completely off vibes they were having post fmr. That ott awkwardness and odd behavior was too glaring not to notice. They have always had that ease even if they don't interact. And even if you didn't pick up on it then, dreamcon was too in your face. Seulgi would never ignore Irene crying on stage, we've seen how she acts when Irene is sick or uncomfortable. Plus the way Irene avoided her and almost stumbled doing it was also too obvious. And unpopular opinion, I'm someone who likes and ships them but don't think they're together or anything and even I don't believe it was due to debut stress or whatever professional excuse most believe caused it.

I would also agree that Seulgi would never ignore Irene crying on stage. Though I'm not sure if I should share this because I wasn't able to bookmark or ever searched it back and I don't have a proof on it. It's hangul so it's hard to search (please take it with a grain of salt) but from what I read on one of those curious cat kind of things but for koreans in twitter where people would ask question and they would answer. Someone mentioned that they saw Seulgi was trying to comfort Irene when they went off stage. I was also concerned, was curious and started digging though the moment I read the tweet, I had this sigh of relief but I didn't looked back on it. A lot of kluvies thought that Irene started crying because of the overwhelming cheer +crowd (coz covid, no crowd in a long time). These are only from what I read back then it was live happening. So the way I understand on what happened on dream con was really different.
however on the other things, maybe I've really gotten really numb with those awkwardness.
Yes, totally respect any other opinions and beliefs. Thank you for making me understand. There wasn't any forum like this about seulrene so I'm glad

Da I've never come across that sort of fanacc. The overwhelming thing is what Irene said on bubble and well, many believed it, many didn't. I do agree that Seulgi is not someone who doesn't move to comfort Irene if she's not okay in any way and that day it wasn't just Seulgi but even Yeri looked like she's taking sides.

I'll still say I don't think it was any major beef because I remember during the FMR performance in dreamcon Irene's mic pack came off and Seulgi had tried to help but at the same time they were also kinda avoiding each other. Hot and cold was the best way to put it.

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I usually don't like bringing back pics from dreamcon but this pic really hit me. Guess who she was staring at