Irene and Seulgi

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

Irene might have fell first in terms of finding seulgi adorable and later attracted to her physically, and seulgi fell later and harder

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

Irene might have fell first in terms of finding seulgi adorable and later attracted to her physically, and seulgi fell later and harder

I agree with this except the fell first part I still think Seulgi was like instantly charmed lol iirc they didn't even train together at first so seulgi did go out of her way to approach even though Irene wouldn't talk and kept to herself.

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

I think Irene fell first. Seulgi might have been drawn to Irene, but maybe she didn’t realize she love Irene until just a few years ago

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

Irene might have fell first in terms of finding seulgi adorable and later attracted to her physically, and seulgi fell later and harder

I agree with this except the fell first part I still think Seulgi was like instantly charmed lol iirc they didn't even train together at first so seulgi did go out of her way to approach even though Irene wouldn't talk and kept to herself.

that's true seulgi definitely was instantly charmed by irene whenever she tells the first impression story of finding her really pretty, but i feel like that might just be it - finding irene pretty and not exactly falling for her just yet

[Guest]

Has anyone here ever seen Seulgi in real life?
Many fan accounts I’ve read says she’s sweet, kind, and very cute. It’d be easy to fall in love with someone like that, no wonder the other members adore her

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

I think Irene fell first because she was at a stage of life where she could recognise her feelings aa attraction. Seulgi, I know she was immediately charmed by Irene, but she also probably didn't realise her feelings and thought of it as admiration for Irene. From the moment she realised though, she has been so down bad

[Guest]

Irene is into a lot of yellow recently. Yellow nails, describing her feelings as sparkling yellow, picking that yellow bowl, yellow pillow and blanket. Interesting... Very interesting

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

I think Irene fell first because she was at a stage of life where she could recognise her feelings aa attraction. Seulgi, I know she was immediately charmed by Irene, but she also probably didn't realise her feelings and thought of it as admiration for Irene. From the moment she realised though, she has been so down bad

I agree totally anon. I think Seulgi immediately was mesmerized and drawn to Irene and if she understood herself she would have understood it was was the biggest crush ever but as she thought herself as straight at the time she just thought it was fascination/admiration and that Irene's beauty was just mesmerizing.
I think she started understanding she was bi/gay around the secret unnie moment.
But yeah once she understood she was head over heels over Irene and she understood she was the only one for her.

I think that they have been in a platonic lesbian relationship even if they were physically very close in a gay way since their trainee days with ups and downs.

I think like you that Irene understood she was lesbian far earlier in high school with her huge crush on her purple friend. It was her first love whether unrequited or not. I think it was intense enough for Irene to realize she was lesbian. When you crave wearing the dirty gym clothes of a woman you don't know you end up asking yourself the right questions.

So Irene started crushing on Seulgi when they were very young i don't know exactly when but we know that when they debuted Irene was already crushing on her so it started before that. The way they were possessive of each other was always so lesbian. Also the way Irene couldn't even look at Seulgi without getting lost in her lips.
I think that for Irene it was a really difficult thing to handle as Seulgi thought she was het and was lightyears away form realizing what she was feeling for Irene was obviously very gay. Irene also was the group leader with responsabilities to add to the difficulties.
It was also probably hard for her to move on as without realizing it Seulgi was feeding that lesbian relationship as the crush and craving was clearly mutual. It 's why there was a lot of push and pull at the time. Irene was sometimes a bit distant with Seulgi and there was a lot of push and pull form her because it allowed her to stay in control of the relationship.

I think that the wish to control each other comes form those times because Irene wanted Seulgi in a biblical way and Seulgi was too unaware to understand what she was feeling was romantic feelings and desire so Irene used push and pull tactics to regain a bit of power over the relationship and it made Seulgi feel a bit powerless and wanting to control Irene. I think that they wanted to possess and control each other because they couldn't get each other. You can often see it in old videos.
It's also baffling how they always obsess over each other and where the other is and always end up initating some sort of physical contact.

I think their relationship became officialy sexual/lesbian around jeju. I think that if they are in a serious relationship it started after dreamcon. I think there whole drama was about comitting in a real lifelong relaitonship and seeing each other as each other lifelong partners. They clearly settled their differences and since then have been the happiest ever.
You can see how much more peaceful they are with each other, there is a level of trust and love rarely seen before. The way Irene comes ot cuddle in Seulgi's side as soon as she sees her you can see Seulgi is the safest place in the world for her. You can also see Seulgi constant blatant simping.

I think it's so cute they still make each other blush just by looking each other in the eyes. If we are right and they are really dating they are the cutest and healthiest couple ever. So yeah i think Irene fell first and that when Seulgi realized that what she felt for Irene was lesbian love it must have hitted her like a sac of brics so at that moment she might have fell harder but now i think they are both absolutely and equally in love.

[Guest]

[Guest]

Girls, in your opinion, between Seulgi and Irene, who fell first and who fell harder?

I think Irene fell first because she was at a stage of life where she could recognise her feelings aa attraction. Seulgi, I know she was immediately charmed by Irene, but she also probably didn't realise her feelings and thought of it as admiration for Irene. From the moment she realised though, she has been so down bad

Spoiler

So Irene started crushing on Seulgi when they were very young i don't know exactly when but we know that when they debuted Irene was already crushing on her so it started before that. The way they were possessive of each other was always so lesbian. Also the way Irene couldn't even look at Seulgi without getting lost in her lips.
I think that for Irene it was a really difficult thing to handle as Seulgi thought she was het and was lightyears away form realizing what she was feeling for Irene was obviously very gay. Irene also was the group leader with responsabilities to add to the difficulties.
It was also probably hard for her to move on as without realizing it Seulgi was feeding that lesbian relationship as the crush and craving was clearly mutual. It 's why there was a lot of push and pull at the time. Irene was sometimes a bit distant with Seulgi and there was a lot of push and pull form her because it allowed her to stay in control of the relationship.

I think that the wish to control each other comes form those times because Irene wanted Seulgi in a biblical way and Seulgi was too unaware to understand what she was feeling was romantic feelings and desire so Irene used push and pull tactics to regain a bit of power over the relationship and it made Seulgi feel a bit powerless and wanting to control Irene. I think that they wanted to possess and control each other because they couldn't get each other. You can often see it in old videos.
It's also baffling how they always obsess over each other and where the other is and always end up initating some sort of physical contact.

I think their relationship became officialy sexual/lesbian around jeju. I think that if they are in a serious relationship it started after dreamcon. I think there whole drama was about comitting in a real lifelong relaitonship and seeing each other as each other lifelong partners. They clearly settled their differences and since then have been the happiest ever.
You can see how much more peaceful they are with each other, there is a level of trust and love rarely seen before. The way Irene comes ot cuddle in Seulgi's side as soon as she sees her you can see Seulgi is the safest place in the world for her. You can also see Seulgi constant blatant simping.

I think it's so cute they still make each other blush just by looking each other in the eyes. If we are right and they are really dating they are the cutest and healthiest couple ever. So yeah i think Irene fell first and that when Seulgi realized that what she felt for Irene was lesbian love it must have hitted her like a sac of brics so at that moment she might have fell harder but now i think they are both absolutely and equally in love.

DA For me... By the time they debuted there was an emotional attachment, close bond. To the point where when Seulgi was asked if she wanted to go 10 years into the future or 10 years back she chose to go back and remembered them holding hands and crying on the roof. Irene definitely kept staring at her lips and her body way too much which IMO showed some level of attraction there. And as you rightly put there was so much push and pull on and off that's why people called them divorced all the time. Even now they act weird around each other for people that have known each other so long. I think as the members staff fans and others around them picked up on their obvious chemistry and kept pointing it out so much they probably started to actually think about it in a gay way which made things awkward at times.

They have gotten a lot more closer since their trip but there's still an air of tension, which for me I feel like something may have happened between them and now where they did cross that line. But I don't think they're dating. I think they've decided to maintain their close friendship over the obvious unresolved sexual tension and the sister stuff may be more for them and less for us, to reiterate it so it reinforces that boundary.

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I think Irene fell first because she was at a stage of life where she could recognise her feelings aa attraction. Seulgi, I know she was immediately charmed by Irene, but she also probably didn't realise her feelings and thought of it as admiration for Irene. From the moment she realised though, she has been so down bad

Spoiler

So Irene started crushing on Seulgi when they were very young i don't know exactly when but we know that when they debuted Irene was already crushing on her so it started before that. The way they were possessive of each other was always so lesbian. Also the way Irene couldn't even look at Seulgi without getting lost in her lips.
I think that for Irene it was a really difficult thing to handle as Seulgi thought she was het and was lightyears away form realizing what she was feeling for Irene was obviously very gay. Irene also was the group leader with responsabilities to add to the difficulties.
It was also probably hard for her to move on as without realizing it Seulgi was feeding that lesbian relationship as the crush and craving was clearly mutual. It 's why there was a lot of push and pull at the time. Irene was sometimes a bit distant with Seulgi and there was a lot of push and pull form her because it allowed her to stay in control of the relationship.

I think that the wish to control each other comes form those times because Irene wanted Seulgi in a biblical way and Seulgi was too unaware to understand what she was feeling was romantic feelings and desire so Irene used push and pull tactics to regain a bit of power over the relationship and it made Seulgi feel a bit powerless and wanting to control Irene. I think that they wanted to possess and control each other because they couldn't get each other. You can often see it in old videos.
It's also baffling how they always obsess over each other and where the other is and always end up initating some sort of physical contact.

I think their relationship became officialy sexual/lesbian around jeju. I think that if they are in a serious relationship it started after dreamcon. I think there whole drama was about comitting in a real lifelong relaitonship and seeing each other as each other lifelong partners. They clearly settled their differences and since then have been the happiest ever.
You can see how much more peaceful they are with each other, there is a level of trust and love rarely seen before. The way Irene comes ot cuddle in Seulgi's side as soon as she sees her you can see Seulgi is the safest place in the world for her. You can also see Seulgi constant blatant simping.

I think it's so cute they still make each other blush just by looking each other in the eyes. If we are right and they are really dating they are the cutest and healthiest couple ever. So yeah i think Irene fell first and that when Seulgi realized that what she felt for Irene was lesbian love it must have hitted her like a sac of brics so at that moment she might have fell harder but now i think they are both absolutely and equally in love.

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DA For me... By the time they debuted there was an emotional attachment, close bond. To the point where when Seulgi was asked if she wanted to go 10 years into the future or 10 years back she chose to go back and remembered them holding hands and crying on the roof. Irene definitely kept staring at her lips and her body way too much which IMO showed some level of attraction there. And as you rightly put there was so much push and pull on and off that's why people called them divorced all the time. Even now they act weird around each other for people that have known each other so long. I think as the members staff fans and others around them picked up on their obvious chemistry and kept pointing it out so much they probably started to actually think about it in a gay way which made things awkward at times.

They have gotten a lot more closer since their trip but there's still an air of tension, which for me I feel like something may have happened between them and now where they did cross that line. But I don't think they're dating. I think they've decided to maintain their close friendship over the obvious unresolved sexual tension and the sister stuff may be more for them and less for us, to reiterate it so it reinforces that boundary.

You sound like the l chat resident incel who says "no they are friends" everytime a seulrene conversation happens.

This is a seulrene shipping thread.

[Guest]

Spoiler

So Irene started crushing on Seulgi when they were very young i don't know exactly when but we know that when they debuted Irene was already crushing on her so it started before that. The way they were possessive of each other was always so lesbian. Also the way Irene couldn't even look at Seulgi without getting lost in her lips.
I think that for Irene it was a really difficult thing to handle as Seulgi thought she was het and was lightyears away form realizing what she was feeling for Irene was obviously very gay. Irene also was the group leader with responsabilities to add to the difficulties.
It was also probably hard for her to move on as without realizing it Seulgi was feeding that lesbian relationship as the crush and craving was clearly mutual. It 's why there was a lot of push and pull at the time. Irene was sometimes a bit distant with Seulgi and there was a lot of push and pull form her because it allowed her to stay in control of the relationship.

I think that the wish to control each other comes form those times because Irene wanted Seulgi in a biblical way and Seulgi was too unaware to understand what she was feeling was romantic feelings and desire so Irene used push and pull tactics to regain a bit of power over the relationship and it made Seulgi feel a bit powerless and wanting to control Irene. I think that they wanted to possess and control each other because they couldn't get each other. You can often see it in old videos.
It's also baffling how they always obsess over each other and where the other is and always end up initating some sort of physical contact.

I think their relationship became officialy sexual/lesbian around jeju. I think that if they are in a serious relationship it started after dreamcon. I think there whole drama was about comitting in a real lifelong relaitonship and seeing each other as each other lifelong partners. They clearly settled their differences and since then have been the happiest ever.
You can see how much more peaceful they are with each other, there is a level of trust and love rarely seen before. The way Irene comes ot cuddle in Seulgi's side as soon as she sees her you can see Seulgi is the safest place in the world for her. You can also see Seulgi constant blatant simping.

I think it's so cute they still make each other blush just by looking each other in the eyes. If we are right and they are really dating they are the cutest and healthiest couple ever. So yeah i think Irene fell first and that when Seulgi realized that what she felt for Irene was lesbian love it must have hitted her like a sac of brics so at that moment she might have fell harder but now i think they are both absolutely and equally in love.

Spoiler

DA For me... By the time they debuted there was an emotional attachment, close bond. To the point where when Seulgi was asked if she wanted to go 10 years into the future or 10 years back she chose to go back and remembered them holding hands and crying on the roof. Irene definitely kept staring at her lips and her body way too much which IMO showed some level of attraction there. And as you rightly put there was so much push and pull on and off that's why people called them divorced all the time. Even now they act weird around each other for people that have known each other so long. I think as the members staff fans and others around them picked up on their obvious chemistry and kept pointing it out so much they probably started to actually think about it in a gay way which made things awkward at times.

They have gotten a lot more closer since their trip but there's still an air of tension, which for me I feel like something may have happened between them and now where they did cross that line. But I don't think they're dating. I think they've decided to maintain their close friendship over the obvious unresolved sexual tension and the sister stuff may be more for them and less for us, to reiterate it so it reinforces that boundary.

You sound like the l chat resident incel who says "no they are friends" everytime a seulrene conversation happens.

This is a seulrene shipping thread.

Well, I really don't think it's the troll, but there's really no agreeing with something like that. Are you trying to tell us that Seulgi and Irene know they're attracted to each other, crossed the line in Jeju and decided to do the biggest lesbian concept ever in kpop and a tour with just the two of them and that's fine? That doesn't make any sense anon, it would be too cruel and no one is that enlightened to move on from being friends after everything so quickly.
Anyway, here are Seulgi's own words on the subject: (2:36)
[YouTube][/YouTube]

[Guest]

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DA For me... By the time they debuted there was an emotional attachment, close bond. To the point where when Seulgi was asked if she wanted to go 10 years into the future or 10 years back she chose to go back and remembered them holding hands and crying on the roof. Irene definitely kept staring at her lips and her body way too much which IMO showed some level of attraction there. And as you rightly put there was so much push and pull on and off that's why people called them divorced all the time. Even now they act weird around each other for people that have known each other so long. I think as the members staff fans and others around them picked up on their obvious chemistry and kept pointing it out so much they probably started to actually think about it in a gay way which made things awkward at times.

They have gotten a lot more closer since their trip but there's still an air of tension, which for me I feel like something may have happened between them and now where they did cross that line. But I don't think they're dating. I think they've decided to maintain their close friendship over the obvious unresolved sexual tension and the sister stuff may be more for them and less for us, to reiterate it so it reinforces that boundary.

You sound like the l chat resident incel who says "no they are friends" everytime a seulrene conversation happens.

This is a seulrene shipping thread.

Well, I really don't think it's the troll, but there's really no agreeing with something like that. Are you trying to tell us that Seulgi and Irene know they're attracted to each other, crossed the line in Jeju and decided to do the biggest lesbian concept ever in kpop and a tour with just the two of them and that's fine? That doesn't make any sense anon, it would be too cruel and no one is that enlightened to move on from being friends after everything so quickly.
Anyway, here are Seulgi's own words on the subject: (2:36)

Spoiler

And didn't irene give similar advice with very similar phrasing?



I can't find the youtube video but i found the photocard she made in relation to the advice she was giving in the video

[Guest]

You sound like the l chat resident incel who says "no they are friends" everytime a seulrene conversation happens.

This is a seulrene shipping thread.

Well, I really don't think it's the troll, but there's really no agreeing with something like that. Are you trying to tell us that Seulgi and Irene know they're attracted to each other, crossed the line in Jeju and decided to do the biggest lesbian concept ever in kpop and a tour with just the two of them and that's fine? That doesn't make any sense anon, it would be too cruel and no one is that enlightened to move on from being friends after everything so quickly.
Anyway, here are Seulgi's own words on the subject: (2:36)

Spoiler

And didn't irene give similar advice with very similar phrasing?



I can't find the youtube video but i found the photocard she made in relation to the advice she was giving in the video

Anon that you guys are responding to here, no I'm not any sort of troll. I actually hit a word limit while sending that post and had to delete some of my reply and I only just got to come back online. I was one of the first persons to point out this whole love is about timing thing too so don't mind me...there's A LOT of things I've considered sus about them but I guess at the end of it, stubbornly, I can't allow myself to conclude that they actually are together in that way (it seems too good to be true ). Doesn't mean that they aren't together or don't have romantic feelings or anything and I won't fight against anyone that thinks so. I was just sharing some alternative thoughts...please forgive my flip flopping ass.

[Guest]

Well, I really don't think it's the troll, but there's really no agreeing with something like that. Are you trying to tell us that Seulgi and Irene know they're attracted to each other, crossed the line in Jeju and decided to do the biggest lesbian concept ever in kpop and a tour with just the two of them and that's fine? That doesn't make any sense anon, it would be too cruel and no one is that enlightened to move on from being friends after everything so quickly.
Anyway, here are Seulgi's own words on the subject: (2:36)

Spoiler

And didn't irene give similar advice with very similar phrasing?



I can't find the youtube video but i found the photocard she made in relation to the advice she was giving in the video

Anon that you guys are responding to here, no I'm not any sort of troll. I actually hit a word limit while sending that post and had to delete some of my reply and I only just got to come back online. I was one of the first persons to point out this whole love is about timing thing too so don't mind me...there's A LOT of things I've considered sus about them but I guess at the end of it, stubbornly, I can't allow myself to conclude that they actually are together in that way (it seems too good to be true ). Doesn't mean that they aren't together or don't have romantic feelings or anything and I won't fight against anyone that thinks so. I was just sharing some alternative thoughts...please forgive my flip flopping ass.

Ok good for you we get it now stop saying they aren’t dating every time a conversation is happening we are aware about your point of view you don’t need to repeat it on this forum ever again.

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

[Guest]

Well, I really don't think it's the troll, but there's really no agreeing with something like that. Are you trying to tell us that Seulgi and Irene know they're attracted to each other, crossed the line in Jeju and decided to do the biggest lesbian concept ever in kpop and a tour with just the two of them and that's fine? That doesn't make any sense anon, it would be too cruel and no one is that enlightened to move on from being friends after everything so quickly.
Anyway, here are Seulgi's own words on the subject: (2:36)

Spoiler

And didn't irene give similar advice with very similar phrasing?



I can't find the youtube video but i found the photocard she made in relation to the advice she was giving in the video

Anon that you guys are responding to here, no I'm not any sort of troll. I actually hit a word limit while sending that post and had to delete some of my reply and I only just got to come back online. I was one of the first persons to point out this whole love is about timing thing too so don't mind me...there's A LOT of things I've considered sus about them but I guess at the end of it, stubbornly, I can't allow myself to conclude that they actually are together in that way (it seems too good to be true ). Doesn't mean that they aren't together or don't have romantic feelings or anything and I won't fight against anyone that thinks so. I was just sharing some alternative thoughts...please forgive my flip flopping ass.

Da it’s alright anon!

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

I agree about the suffering part I couldn't do it. but for the last question they're hardly the first group to have suggestive scenes in mvs between members, do people consider it weird for them too? I do think they're the only ones to have taken it this far though. I guess that's part of what they mean by concepts only they can show in terms of chemistry. It's hard to have that

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

I agree about the suffering part I couldn't do it. but for the last question they're hardly the first group to have suggestive scenes in mvs between members, do people consider it weird for them too? I do think they're the only ones to have taken it this far though. I guess that's part of what they mean by concepts only they can show in terms of chemistry. It's hard to have that

From what I see, It doesn't seem weird on other groups as far as I know. They're more of friends + co-workers vibe and there's no weird tension like what seulrene have. If others could see otherwise and have other examples, I'm open to know more about it.

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

it's just the same het troll. What is the point of coming to a shipping board to say you don't ship. None. It just cutted the conversation because it was getting interesting and people were speculating and for once this thread was it should be for a shipping board.

Now people have to justify themselves and try to find other kpop artists and talk about meaningless things again. He always does that because he can't stand seulrene. It's his new way of stopping all seulrene convos he also does it on the other forum.

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

it's just the same het troll. What is the point of coming to a shipping board to say you don't ship. None. It just cutted the conversation because it was getting interesting and people were speculating and for once this thread was it should be for a shipping board.

Now people have to justify themselves and try to find other kpop artists and talk about meaningless things again. He always does that because he can't stand seulrene. It's his new way of stopping all seulrene convos he also does it on the other forum.

There's no one here that said they don't ship? Everyone is free to continue the conversation.

[Guest]

One of a hell of a situationship then? If I'm either of seulrene, I wouldn't make myself suffer like that and would rather do some gay concept with other members rather than with each other. The tension and toxic relationship would be crazy to maintain coz of rollercoaster of emotions as I've experienced it myself with my co-worker.

Also, would you guys do some scenes like that (in TILT) with your sister/family?
Such questionable things

it's just the same het troll. What is the point of coming to a shipping board to say you don't ship. None. It just cutted the conversation because it was getting interesting and people were speculating and for once this thread was it should be for a shipping board.

Now people have to justify themselves and try to find other kpop artists and talk about meaningless things again. He always does that because he can't stand seulrene. It's his new way of stopping all seulrene convos he also does it on the other forum.

There's no one here that said they don't ship? Everyone is free to continue the conversation.

The obvious het troll trying to shut down the conversation did.

[Guest]

[Guest]

it's just the same het troll. What is the point of coming to a shipping board to say you don't ship. None. It just cutted the conversation because it was getting interesting and people were speculating and for once this thread was it should be for a shipping board.

Now people have to justify themselves and try to find other kpop artists and talk about meaningless things again. He always does that because he can't stand seulrene. It's his new way of stopping all seulrene convos he also does it on the other forum.

There's no one here that said they don't ship? Everyone is free to continue the conversation.

The obvious het troll trying to shut down the conversation did.

Where?

[Guest]

was Seulgi also sick? abalone porridge is the kind of thing you give to someone that's been sick. Is she feeding Irene the porridge too?