Irene and Seulgi

[Guest]

1. i'm seulgi biased
2. i don't go to tlc nor the other one
3. you're making no sense. i genuinely have no clue what you're trying to say

Da yeah, that's bullshit. You won't know this board without knowing the RV board in TLC first. And why do you know there was another one if you don't go there?

never said idk it, i just don’t go there anymore. anything else?

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

[Guest]

Da yeah, that's bullshit. You won't know this board without knowing the RV board in TLC first. And why do you know there was another one if you don't go there?

never said idk it, i just don’t go there anymore. anything else?

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

[Guest]

never said idk it, i just don’t go there anymore. anything else?

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

Da how interesting that you say you don't go to tlc but you miraculously know what one troll said about Aseul, it was literally one anon trolling about Aseul not happening. The rest who had info shut it down and said it was only pushed back, but ofc you ignored that. Btw you're definitely not Seulgi biased, it's weird that you claim that because she was never influenced by the trucks and kept acting the same until recently after her plans were ruined. She had her akgaes harassing her on bubble during Irene’s debut and she never stopped supporting her. Will you also deny that Irene has been acting extra with Wendy lately?

[Guest]

never said idk it, i just don’t go there anymore. anything else?

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

Da It has been postponed anon, how bad is your copium to keep being in denial about it?

[Guest]

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

Da It has been postponed anon, how bad is your copium to keep being in denial about it?

Da Ikr? Who even said it was not happening? People were literally talking about Seulgi still updating her Aseul board before she stopped recently.

[Guest]

Da lol don’t expect an actual answer out of these angst ff writers

Da Things I can theorize is that both are aware of the trucks sent during tilt and toxic fans blurring them on photos when they uploaded photos during hang out in macau (?) (irene with blue outfit & seulgi with red ones). Sadly some anons here think worse of irene that she's the one distancing because she's greedy and selfish, the way I see is that both are keeping distance in public as both don't want those trucks & blurring photos to happen again. I don't see both of them mention each other or subtlety talk about each other often in bubble, youtube, or anything this year the same way they did post-pandemic years.

Da Anon, Seulgi sent a support truck and brought goodies, is that mutual agreement to stay away from each other? Irene didn’t even thank her or even looked grateful for her support. Are you sure you’re even paying attention to both of the equally?

Da she was happy in the videos and told her staff to eat deliciously and informed them that the truck is from seulgi and she was excited when seulgi showed her the bunny-inspired mochis. I don't understand some anons here making irene look like the most ungrateful person and a villain because she isn't the same with other people who often posts. Social media isn't the only way to show gratitude and both aren't same person.

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

Everyone here is literally TLC anons, we all came from there and it's how this place came to be. What are you on about? Someone tried to make it seem as if Seulgi has also been influenced by the trucks, so just because people disagreed since that's totally false, they're bad people? Seulgi did not change one bit due to the trucks or due to any fan pressure.

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

Everyone here is literally TLC anons, we all came from there and it's how this place came to be. What are you on about? Someone tried to make it seem as if Seulgi has also been influenced by the trucks, so just because people disagreed since that's totally false, they're bad people? Seulgi did not change one bit due to the trucks or due to any fan pressure.

Keyword: still visits. Obviously most of us come from there but not everyone is still on there because why would you be with what that place has become. No one called you a bad person either so there really is no need for the dramatics.

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

Everyone here is literally TLC anons, we all came from there and it's how this place came to be. What are you on about? Someone tried to make it seem as if Seulgi has also been influenced by the trucks, so just because people disagreed since that's totally false, they're bad people? Seulgi did not change one bit due to the trucks or due to any fan pressure.

Keyword: still visits. Obviously most of us come from there but not everyone is still on there because why would you be with what that place has become. No one called you a bad person either so there really is no need for the dramatics.

Considering how up-to-date you seem to be about that place, you clearly still go there too. And i am not the one who brought up the other member, but someone claimed that both Irene and Seulgi were influenced by the trucks and it's hard to make that claim and not expect the other member to be brought up. Also people can't claim Seulgi is on in this "agreement" and not expect a counter argument, that's not a fight that's just a discussion.

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

Everyone here is literally TLC anons, we all came from there and it's how this place came to be. What are you on about? Someone tried to make it seem as if Seulgi has also been influenced by the trucks, so just because people disagreed since that's totally false, they're bad people? Seulgi did not change one bit due to the trucks or due to any fan pressure.

Keyword: still visits. Obviously most of us come from there but not everyone is still on there because why would you be with what that place has become. No one called you a bad person either so there really is no need for the dramatics.

DA it's true, some of don't go to that board anymore. I started visiting it less last year. The state of the board has gotten worse since it's mostly just solo stans. I visit it still but only from time to time.

[Guest]

[Guest]

First, you make it clear. Second, I know this is a shipping thread but if you're a Seulgi-biased shipper and you ignore what's happening with Seulgi this year, I don't know what to tell you. Lastly, anons were expressing their thoughts about what could possibly happened and you genuinely don't know what their talking about?

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

Da how interesting that you say you don't go to tlc but you miraculously know what one troll said about Aseul, it was literally one anon trolling about Aseul not happening. The rest who had info shut it down and said it was only pushed back, but ofc you ignored that. Btw you're definitely not Seulgi biased, it's weird that you claim that because she was never influenced by the trucks and kept acting the same until recently after her plans were ruined. She had her akgaes harassing her on bubble during Irene’s debut and she never stopped supporting her. Will you also deny that Irene has been acting extra with Wendy lately?

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

[Guest]

Everyone here is literally TLC anons, we all came from there and it's how this place came to be. What are you on about? Someone tried to make it seem as if Seulgi has also been influenced by the trucks, so just because people disagreed since that's totally false, they're bad people? Seulgi did not change one bit due to the trucks or due to any fan pressure.

Keyword: still visits. Obviously most of us come from there but not everyone is still on there because why would you be with what that place has become. No one called you a bad person either so there really is no need for the dramatics.

DA it's true, some of don't go to that board anymore. I started visiting it less last year. The state of the board has gotten worse since it's mostly just solo stans. I visit it still but only from time to time.

da real ones know this board is because of holcene's cc and sgsd

[Guest]

make what clear? i’m not the one claiming anything.
tell me specifically what is happening with seulgi this year.
and forgive me if i don’t take anon theories seriously when just recently yall were doomposting about aseul japan not happening/being postponed

Da how interesting that you say you don't go to tlc but you miraculously know what one troll said about Aseul, it was literally one anon trolling about Aseul not happening. The rest who had info shut it down and said it was only pushed back, but ofc you ignored that. Btw you're definitely not Seulgi biased, it's weird that you claim that because she was never influenced by the trucks and kept acting the same until recently after her plans were ruined. She had her akgaes harassing her on bubble during Irene’s debut and she never stopped supporting her. Will you also deny that Irene has been acting extra with Wendy lately?

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

You’re picking and choosing what you want to see, so fine, I’ll entertain this by addressing it all. And before you dismiss everything as “just anons,” most of this is documented with actual receipts, timelines, videos, and public behavior. You can still choose to gaslight yourself out of it, but I genuinely would love to hear a convincing rebuttal.

Irene’s fans started flooding fansigns asking about the other member, trucks were sent against Seulgi and the unit, and suddenly Irene’s entire behavior switched. She didn’t post about Tilt or Balance, kept talking about wanting to go home every chance she got, invited the other member to their mini fanmeeting and made Seulgi look like a side character.

Then there was Macau, where she went as far as eating separately at the same restaurant. The photos she posted from Balance were all solo shots. Then in England for SMTown, she went to the same bakery separately, kept hiding Seulgi or minimizing her presence in vlogs, and by the time her comeback happened, everything became centered around the other member again because her fans want this.

At fansigns she dodged questions, avoided mentioning Seulgi by name even when Seulgi's fansite and major Seulrene shippers were right there, and whenever members came up she redirected things toward the other member. Even on TV, the fanservice focus was on the other member. Irene has been doing this on her own because it benefits her, her fans want this so she does what they want.

And throughout all of this, Seulgi never changed her behavior because of trucks or akgaes. She’s been getting hate from her own akgaes for years for mentioning Irene and never once seemed to care or distance herself, so I don’t think it’s fair to claim this dynamic has been mutual. Seulgi only stopped trying after the music show visit and that cold attitude she received, it had nothing to do with fan pressure or any trucks like some want to suggest.

As for the unit, people keep rewriting history. You can not believe people who have posted spoilers that came true, but at least don't nitpick their words. Back during their last Balance concert, they literally said on stage they’d be back soon, and Irene herself said in video that the unit would return “really soon.” Seulgi teased the unit multiple times after that too. Then Irene’s solo tour suddenly happened, and all the teasing abruptly stopped. In what universe is "soon" meaning a year later?

[Guest]

Da how interesting that you say you don't go to tlc but you miraculously know what one troll said about Aseul, it was literally one anon trolling about Aseul not happening. The rest who had info shut it down and said it was only pushed back, but ofc you ignored that. Btw you're definitely not Seulgi biased, it's weird that you claim that because she was never influenced by the trucks and kept acting the same until recently after her plans were ruined. She had her akgaes harassing her on bubble during Irene’s debut and she never stopped supporting her. Will you also deny that Irene has been acting extra with Wendy lately?

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

You’re picking and choosing what you want to see, so fine, I’ll entertain this by addressing it all. And before you dismiss everything as “just anons,” most of this is documented with actual receipts, timelines, videos, and public behavior. You can still choose to gaslight yourself out of it, but I genuinely would love to hear a convincing rebuttal.

Irene’s fans started flooding fansigns asking about the other member, trucks were sent against Seulgi and the unit, and suddenly Irene’s entire behavior switched. She didn’t post about Tilt or Balance, kept talking about wanting to go home every chance she got, invited the other member to their mini fanmeeting and made Seulgi look like a side character.

Then there was Macau, where she went as far as eating separately at the same restaurant. The photos she posted from Balance were all solo shots. Then in England for SMTown, she went to the same bakery separately, kept hiding Seulgi or minimizing her presence in vlogs, and by the time her comeback happened, everything became centered around the other member again because her fans want this.

At fansigns she dodged questions, avoided mentioning Seulgi by name even when Seulgi's fansite and major Seulrene shippers were right there, and whenever members came up she redirected things toward the other member. Even on TV, the fanservice focus was on the other member. Irene has been doing this on her own because it benefits her, her fans want this so she does what they want.

And throughout all of this, Seulgi never changed her behavior because of trucks or akgaes. She’s been getting hate from her own akgaes for years for mentioning Irene and never once seemed to care or distance herself, so I don’t think it’s fair to claim this dynamic has been mutual. Seulgi only stopped trying after the music show visit and that cold attitude she received, it had nothing to do with fan pressure or any trucks like some want to suggest.

As for the unit, people keep rewriting history. You can not believe people who have posted spoilers that came true, but at least don't nitpick their words. Back during their last Balance concert, they literally said on stage they’d be back soon, and Irene herself said in video that the unit would return “really soon.” Seulgi teased the unit multiple times after that too. Then Irene’s solo tour suddenly happened, and all the teasing abruptly stopped. In what universe is "soon" meaning a year later?

I’m glad we’re not all trying to pretend everything's ok, because everything is literally a mess. Personally, I’m really disappointed with everything involving them, I could barely watch the bts footage of Irene’s music show with Seulgi and Wendy for the same reasons you mentioned. I felt really bad for Seulgi because she was slightly ignored, even with cameras recording.
And you know what? Why, really? Seulgi has always been very sweet and caring toward Irene; she never needs to exaggerate with words to show it because her actions speak for herself.
She always spoke about Irene in a cautious manner so as not to reveal too much, knowing that Irene is an introspective person who guards her privacy, and she only posts photos of Irene with her permission. but she still happily shared little stories about them on a day off work. In one of her vlogs, she even blurred out Irene’s face because she hadn’t finished putting on her makeup.

Seulgi really values Irene.
But even so, I also feel Irene's affection for her has always been genuine, so I hope she comes to her senses and makes things right while there's still time.

[Guest]

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

Spoiler

You’re picking and choosing what you want to see, so fine, I’ll entertain this by addressing it all. And before you dismiss everything as “just anons,” most of this is documented with actual receipts, timelines, videos, and public behavior. You can still choose to gaslight yourself out of it, but I genuinely would love to hear a convincing rebuttal.

And throughout all of this, Seulgi never changed her behavior because of trucks or akgaes. She’s been getting hate from her own akgaes for years for mentioning Irene and never once seemed to care or distance herself, so I don’t think it’s fair to claim this dynamic has been mutual. Seulgi only stopped trying after the music show visit and that cold attitude she received, it had nothing to do with fan pressure or any trucks like some want to suggest.

As for the unit, people keep rewriting history. You can not believe people who have posted spoilers that came true, but at least don't nitpick their words. Back during their last Balance concert, they literally said on stage they’d be back soon, and Irene herself said in video that the unit would return “really soon.” Seulgi teased the unit multiple times after that too. Then Irene’s solo tour suddenly happened, and all the teasing abruptly stopped. In what universe is "soon" meaning a year later?

I’m glad we’re not all trying to pretend everything's ok, because everything is literally a mess. Personally, I’m really disappointed with everything involving them, I could barely watch the bts footage of Irene’s music show with Seulgi and Wendy for the same reasons you mentioned. I felt really bad for Seulgi because she was slightly ignored, even with cameras recording.
And you know what? Why, really? Seulgi has always been very sweet and caring toward Irene; she never needs to exaggerate with words to show it because her actions speak for herself.
She always spoke about Irene in a cautious manner so as not to reveal too much, knowing that Irene is an introspective person who guards her privacy, and she only posts photos of Irene with her permission. but she still happily shared little stories about them on a day off work. In one of her vlogs, she even blurred out Irene’s face because she hadn’t finished putting on her makeup.

Seulgi really values Irene.
But even so, I also feel Irene's affection for her has always been genuine, so I hope she comes to her senses and makes things right while there's still time.

I’d genuinely like someone to explain why they think everything is the same. I’m not talking about rumors or anything here, I’m talking about what we're seeing and nothing is the same. The difference between pre trucks and post trucks is day and night and it's all from Irene's side.

I would understand if a solo stan says this is logical and normal. Irene is doing what's best for her career, this is what her fans want. I do respect that, but at least don't gaslight me by claiming she's not doing anything different and she's not clearly influenced by what her fans want. And don't frame it as if Seulgi is in on it when there was no sign of that.

Plus we're shippers in a shipping board, so i'm not viewing this as a solo fan but as a shipper and the optics are awful. Does it mean i'm the only one who actually believed they were genuine and really cared about each other? Because that can't be, at least not in here.

[Guest]

Da how interesting that you say you don't go to tlc but you miraculously know what one troll said about Aseul, it was literally one anon trolling about Aseul not happening. The rest who had info shut it down and said it was only pushed back, but ofc you ignored that. Btw you're definitely not Seulgi biased, it's weird that you claim that because she was never influenced by the trucks and kept acting the same until recently after her plans were ruined. She had her akgaes harassing her on bubble during Irene’s debut and she never stopped supporting her. Will you also deny that Irene has been acting extra with Wendy lately?

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

You’re picking and choosing what you want to see, so fine, I’ll entertain this by addressing it all. And before you dismiss everything as “just anons,” most of this is documented with actual receipts, timelines, videos, and public behavior. You can still choose to gaslight yourself out of it, but I genuinely would love to hear a convincing rebuttal.

Irene’s fans started flooding fansigns asking about the other member, trucks were sent against Seulgi and the unit, and suddenly Irene’s entire behavior switched. She didn’t post about Tilt or Balance, kept talking about wanting to go home every chance she got, invited the other member to their mini fanmeeting and made Seulgi look like a side character.

Then there was Macau, where she went as far as eating separately at the same restaurant. The photos she posted from Balance were all solo shots. Then in England for SMTown, she went to the same bakery separately, kept hiding Seulgi or minimizing her presence in vlogs, and by the time her comeback happened, everything became centered around the other member again because her fans want this.

At fansigns she dodged questions, avoided mentioning Seulgi by name even when Seulgi's fansite and major Seulrene shippers were right there, and whenever members came up she redirected things toward the other member. Even on TV, the fanservice focus was on the other member. Irene has been doing this on her own because it benefits her, her fans want this so she does what they want.

And throughout all of this, Seulgi never changed her behavior because of trucks or akgaes. She’s been getting hate from her own akgaes for years for mentioning Irene and never once seemed to care or distance herself, so I don’t think it’s fair to claim this dynamic has been mutual. Seulgi only stopped trying after the music show visit and that cold attitude she received, it had nothing to do with fan pressure or any trucks like some want to suggest.

As for the unit, people keep rewriting history. You can not believe people who have posted spoilers that came true, but at least don't nitpick their words. Back during their last Balance concert, they literally said on stage they’d be back soon, and Irene herself said in video that the unit would return “really soon.” Seulgi teased the unit multiple times after that too. Then Irene’s solo tour suddenly happened, and all the teasing abruptly stopped. In what universe is "soon" meaning a year later?

omg you're so right. the trucks got to irene so bad that she demanded a full album and tour to take a break from the gay unit. and she wants to appease 'her fans' so much that she clings to wendy and distances herself from gay ass seulgi. and poor seulgi just accepts this because she's too pure and naive to realize it. why isn't cold and ungrateful irene acknowledging all the support from sweet and caring seulgi?

and yall still don't think you're writing fanfic?

[Guest]

The tlc anons should go back to their board. Anyone who genuinely still visits that place is not even worth arguing with atp. Some of us here do think they might be having issues and some said they don't think they do but if they are hopefully they make up. I don't know why you are coming to this board to fight people over it. Even going as far as dragging another member into it when that isn't even what anons were talking about. Let's not ruin this place too.

I believe the jp debut was supposed to be in the beginning of the year but irene's sudden tour delayed that and they could of have disagreements over it. I've seen an anon on tlc said they heard they fight. I've known about their fights since way back but they do genuinely care about each other. I would say their bond is/will be okay, they had intense fights before but they're still okay.

[Guest]

idk why yall want me to prove i don't do to the other boards so much. go back 7 pages and everyone started dooming and glooming. idk about any trucks other than the ones during tilt. idk about any postponement, yall are just going off random anons somewhere. all i know is that seulgi said aseul in 2026 and its happening in 2026. i haven't watched any irene vlogs and i don't care how she interacts with any of the other members. what does her supposedly being more extra with wendy have to do with anything?

You’re picking and choosing what you want to see, so fine, I’ll entertain this by addressing it all. And before you dismiss everything as “just anons,” most of this is documented with actual receipts, timelines, videos, and public behavior. You can still choose to gaslight yourself out of it, but I genuinely would love to hear a convincing rebuttal.

Irene’s fans started flooding fansigns asking about the other member, trucks were sent against Seulgi and the unit, and suddenly Irene’s entire behavior switched. She didn’t post about Tilt or Balance, kept talking about wanting to go home every chance she got, invited the other member to their mini fanmeeting and made Seulgi look like a side character.

Then there was Macau, where she went as far as eating separately at the same restaurant. The photos she posted from Balance were all solo shots. Then in England for SMTown, she went to the same bakery separately, kept hiding Seulgi or minimizing her presence in vlogs, and by the time her comeback happened, everything became centered around the other member again because her fans want this.

At fansigns she dodged questions, avoided mentioning Seulgi by name even when Seulgi's fansite and major Seulrene shippers were right there, and whenever members came up she redirected things toward the other member. Even on TV, the fanservice focus was on the other member. Irene has been doing this on her own because it benefits her, her fans want this so she does what they want.

And throughout all of this, Seulgi never changed her behavior because of trucks or akgaes. She’s been getting hate from her own akgaes for years for mentioning Irene and never once seemed to care or distance herself, so I don’t think it’s fair to claim this dynamic has been mutual. Seulgi only stopped trying after the music show visit and that cold attitude she received, it had nothing to do with fan pressure or any trucks like some want to suggest.

As for the unit, people keep rewriting history. You can not believe people who have posted spoilers that came true, but at least don't nitpick their words. Back during their last Balance concert, they literally said on stage they’d be back soon, and Irene herself said in video that the unit would return “really soon.” Seulgi teased the unit multiple times after that too. Then Irene’s solo tour suddenly happened, and all the teasing abruptly stopped. In what universe is "soon" meaning a year later?

omg you're so right. the trucks got to irene so bad that she demanded a full album and tour to take a break from the gay unit. and she wants to appease 'her fans' so much that she clings to wendy and distances herself from gay ass seulgi. and poor seulgi just accepts this because she's too pure and naive to realize it. why isn't cold and ungrateful irene acknowledging all the support from sweet and caring seulgi?

and yall still don't think you're writing fanfic?

Da at least deep down you notice it yourself, but since it looks bad, you're committed to the gaslighting. It's funny how no one in every reply has claimed Seulgi is some pure innocent anything or mentioned her sexuality, but there you go proving again how you're still obsessed with the other thread and with what akgaes are saying. One last thing, if you can't act like an adult and have to act like an immature idiot maybe the other thread is exactly where you belong because all these anons have been respectful.

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You're in a shipping thread and you called Seulgi "gay ass" as if we don't like that to be a fact. If Irene is gay, I would be very much happy about it.

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It is what it is, the Japanese mini album is already programmed. I was mad but I got over it so Im going to enjoy those promos, even though I have no idea if there is still gonna be a tour, I doubt it.

It sounds like there will be an OT5 fancon after the group comeback, apparently Aseul will do fanmeets in Japan instead of a tour. Realistically Irene can't do all this and then an Aseul tour, she's not a robot. So i doubt there will be any tour, i think it's over for Aseul after they release this album.

Da oh 100% it will be their last and IMO this cb isn't needed. I liked what legacy Aseul stood for and I feel like with this cb they will water it down heavily. It's a shame, I rather have no unit anymore if they have to do that and let it be for what it is.

The moment i saw Seulgi's pinterest board i knew it was going to be some bff concept, which is expected after all that backlash. So as if the drama isn't enough, if they're just going to do something that will ruin their legacy and what they represented then they should keep it. It would also help Irene's health survive because there's no way this is healthy.

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Are there any sane mature adults left willing to have a discussion without being triggered and acting personally attacked? Because at this point things will just keep going downhill. I’m an Aseul fan who’s always been more Irene biased, so I was genuinely excited for the unit comeback after all these years. The trucks were awful, but at first I didn’t think too much of it because I assumed Irene wouldn’t care or change her behavior over that, even if she wasn’t posting much about the unit's comeback.

Then the comeback happened and little by little things just started feeling off. The Tilt phone case was thrown almost immediately, Irene saying she wanted to go home to everyone willing to listen. Then there were no posts about the unit, then the mini fanmeeting where Irene invited the other member and the whole thing was disrespectful from everyone involved. It was as if Irene couldn't handle a fanmeet with just Seulgi, but we ignored it and moved on.

Then the tour got announced and again, no promotion from Irene’s side. The tour started and there were moments where she felt really distant from Seulgi going as far as separating from her and kept only posting herself. And i still gave grace when people pointed it out and made excuses. But then Irene’s solo comeback happened and suddenly she was openly hyping her own work, promoting her tour, engaging with fans and showing excitement and we learn she was working on it while Tilt was happening, and then there were all the moments involving the other member and doing everything the trucks and those fans wanted.

At some point it becomes hard to just pretend you’re not seeing things.

And I think what some people don’t understand is that not everyone criticizing this is some irrational hater or anti. Some of us just aren’t in the mindset of treating idols like they’re above criticism. If Seulgi was the one acting this way, I’d say the exact same thing about her too.

What frustrates me is that instead of actually discussing this behavior or countering the points being made, the response is mostly just name calling the other side, accusations, and acting like anyone disappointed is crazy or malicious. I’d genuinely love for someone to actually argue the opposite side properly instead of just dismissing people outright.

Because at least from my perspective, I’m not insulting Irene or calling her names. I’m talking about her own actions and i'm disappointed.

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Are there any sane mature adults left willing to have a discussion without being triggered and acting personally attacked? Because at this point things will just keep going downhill. I’m an Aseul fan who’s always been more Irene biased, so I was genuinely excited for the unit comeback after all these years. The trucks were awful, but at first I didn’t think too much of it because I assumed Irene wouldn’t care or change her behavior over that, even if she wasn’t posting much about the unit's comeback.

Then the comeback happened and little by little things just started feeling off. The Tilt phone case was thrown almost immediately, Irene saying she wanted to go home to everyone willing to listen. Then there were no posts about the unit, then the mini fanmeeting where Irene invited the other member and the whole thing was disrespectful from everyone involved. It was as if Irene couldn't handle a fanmeet with just Seulgi, but we ignored it and moved on.

Then the tour got announced and again, no promotion from Irene’s side. The tour started and there were moments where she felt really distant from Seulgi going as far as separating from her and kept only posting herself. And i still gave grace when people pointed it out and made excuses. But then Irene’s solo comeback happened and suddenly she was openly hyping her own work, promoting her tour, engaging with fans and showing excitement and we learn she was working on it while Tilt was happening, and then there were all the moments involving the other member and doing everything the trucks and those fans wanted.

At some point it becomes hard to just pretend you’re not seeing things.

And I think what some people don’t understand is that not everyone criticizing this is some irrational hater or anti. Some of us just aren’t in the mindset of treating idols like they’re above criticism. If Seulgi was the one acting this way, I’d say the exact same thing about her too.

What frustrates me is that instead of actually discussing this behavior or countering the points being made, the response is mostly just name calling the other side, accusations, and acting like anyone disappointed is crazy or malicious. I’d genuinely love for someone to actually argue the opposite side properly instead of just dismissing people outright.

Because at least from my perspective, I’m not insulting Irene or calling her names. I’m talking about her own actions and i'm disappointed.

They won't answer you because they have convinced themselves that everyone is a Seulgi akgae all of a sudden. As if Seulgi akgaes care about the ship or unit, they want both to be over more than anyone else. Idk why they think they would be offended for the unit and ship.