Anonymous801 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:55 am
So I have a theory to share about the MV but I don't think it's a safe space for twitter so I'll share it here
The MV seems to give subtle references to the SUN and the MOON
[Mural Reference (1)]
We also know that SUN = Irene & MOON = Seulgi from Chill Kill
The two seems to act like they're the leaders of the cult from the MV [Mural Reference (2&3)]
or it might be Irene as the main leader Spoiler
Irene kissing the mural with 2 women (reminded me of monster ngl hehe) [Mural Reference (3)]
and Seulgi is like the sub-leader
Spoiler
because the Sun symbol is more prominent to see in the mv more than the moon but it's sometimes paired up as you watch it.
Spoiler
And this as part of the MV as well:
and wenjoyri seems like the younger members of the cult (or previously recruited)
feel free to share your thoughts hehe
I do think Irene is the leader and Seulgi is her right hand woman. Just like the teaser. But i don't get the last twitter. What was it? I don't understand.
SA
Imo the snippet just further supports the theory I&S are the ones who's leading the cult
3 people is morphing? in that scene --the victim, Irene & Seulgi (seen from the clothes)
Anonymous801 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:55 am
So I have a theory to share about the MV but I don't think it's a safe space for twitter so I'll share it here
The MV seems to give subtle references to the SUN and the MOON
[Mural Reference (1)]
We also know that SUN = Irene & MOON = Seulgi from Chill Kill
The two seems to act like they're the leaders of the cult from the MV [Mural Reference (2&3)]
or it might be Irene as the main leader Spoiler
Irene kissing the mural with 2 women (reminded me of monster ngl hehe) [Mural Reference (3)]
and Seulgi is like the sub-leader
Spoiler
because the Sun symbol is more prominent to see in the mv more than the moon but it's sometimes paired up as you watch it.
Spoiler
And this as part of the MV as well:
and wenjoyri seems like the younger members of the cult (or previously recruited)
feel free to share your thoughts hehe
Da I mostly agree. Seulrene did look like they played the main roles in the cult. The sun and the moon thing though... Idk if they kept the theme to just them cause we could see the symbols on the other members too. Now if they wanted to show that the members follow them that's why they also have that symbol then it would make sense in a way I guess
Yes, I have the same thought. it's the cult symbols so the other members making it their symbol as well
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
for some of the other questions, irene was indecisive but she picked seulgi immediately for this question
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
for some of the other questions, irene was indecisive but she picked seulgi immediately for this question
I was not expecting that reaction even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
Spoiler
Yeah that bed scene threw me off. Till before that part I kept thinking seulrene are the leaders but with that scene it was pretty clear that their team tried to put W on a more important light. I also don't know why that ship is suddenly getting pushed so hard. It sucks tbh
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
for some of the other questions, irene was indecisive but she picked seulgi immediately for this question
I was not expecting that reaction even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
Da lol yeah her face was funny but that's exactly her gay panic expression. These two will really never change. Also it's no wonder why Irene answered so quickly with this one. We have seen how Seulgi treats her in such a precious way
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
for some of the other questions, irene was indecisive but she picked seulgi immediately for this question
I was not expecting that reaction even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
Da lol yeah her face was funny but that's exactly her gay panic expression. These two will really never change. Also it's no wonder why Irene answered so quickly with this one. We have seen how Seulgi treats her in such a precious way
Da
Would this also be another example of her gay panic? Her head turned so fast when Irene looked at her lol
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
Spoiler
Yeah that bed scene threw me off. Till before that part I kept thinking seulrene are the leaders but with that scene it was pretty clear that their team tried to put W on a more important light. I also don't know why that ship is suddenly getting pushed so hard. It sucks tbh
Spoiler
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
Spoiler
Yeah that bed scene threw me off. Till before that part I kept thinking seulrene are the leaders but with that scene it was pretty clear that their team tried to put W on a more important light. I also don't know why that ship is suddenly getting pushed so hard. It sucks tbh
Spoiler
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
Spoiler
Without the queerbaiting, they still take attention away and people wanted us to to believe they’re nothing without the ship? They can actually stand on their own
Yeah that bed scene threw me off. Till before that part I kept thinking seulrene are the leaders but with that scene it was pretty clear that their team tried to put W on a more important light. I also don't know why that ship is suddenly getting pushed so hard. It sucks tbh
Spoiler
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
Spoiler
Without the queerbaiting, they still take attention away and people wanted us to to believe they’re nothing without the ship? They can actually stand on their own
Spoiler
funny thing is that seulrene have really not gotten anything overtly gay in any of the official content in recent years. if anything, it's wr that's been pushed into the fanservice spotlight recently. everything we've gotten has been them including each other in their own content or them making an effort to film extra content themselves (ISSS, seulgi fubao vlog, the vlogs they did for chiki and nye, etc.) I don't get the consistent queerbaiting accusations when even during monster era they could've queerbaited like crazy in their vlogs and aseulhan but they kept it classy
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
Spoiler
Yeah that bed scene threw me off. Till before that part I kept thinking seulrene are the leaders but with that scene it was pretty clear that their team tried to put W on a more important light. I also don't know why that ship is suddenly getting pushed so hard. It sucks tbh
Spoiler
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
There is one solid reason why Seulgi is a second leader, she swing/raise the flag. Cosmic is the continuity of Chill Kill. We knew already who is the moon, who is the sun. Why changed the plot for new story when we already know they escape from Chill Kill? And if anyone could be Irene's twin, it obviously would be Seulgi.
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
Spoiler
Without the queerbaiting, they still take attention away and people wanted us to to believe they’re nothing without the ship? They can actually stand on their own
Spoiler
funny thing is that seulrene have really not gotten anything overtly gay in any of the official content in recent years. if anything, it's wr that's been pushed into the fanservice spotlight recently. everything we've gotten has been them including each other in their own content or them making an effort to film extra content themselves (ISSS, seulgi fubao vlog, the vlogs they did for chiki and nye, etc.) I don't get the consistent queerbaiting accusations when even during monster era they could've queerbaited like crazy in their vlogs and aseulhan but they kept it classy
Spoiler
idk but it’s funny cause even with this obvious queerbaiting Seulgi still steals the show by acting crazy on the side it’s hilarious to me
da totally unbiased take but i thought that part was totally out of place with the entire mv tbh, like just a shot inserted for fanservice. you can take it out and it wouldn't take away from the plot of the mv at all. it doesn't help that wendy wasn't really doing anything in the mv to support a bigger role. it's what the haters are yapping about on twitter too: it was an aseul-focused mv.
Spoiler
Without the queerbaiting, they still take attention away and people wanted us to to believe they’re nothing without the ship? They can actually stand on their own
Spoiler
funny thing is that seulrene have really not gotten anything overtly gay in any of the official content in recent years. if anything, it's wr that's been pushed into the fanservice spotlight recently. everything we've gotten has been them including each other in their own content or them making an effort to film extra content themselves (ISSS, seulgi fubao vlog, the vlogs they did for chiki and nye, etc.) I don't get the consistent queerbaiting accusations when even during monster era they could've queerbaited like crazy in their vlogs and aseulhan but they kept it classy
Spoiler
That's the thing. Seulrene have never queerbaited. Monster mv was very gay but it fit perfectly with the carmilla lore that fans were guessing. Apart from that they've never done anything that classifies as queerbaiting. Hell that's the whole reason they were always known as the divorced ship, because we really didn't get much "moments" so to speak. All they did during aseul was be their goofy selves and it's the same even now.
I agree with anon up there, the wr scene in the mv did not add shit to the plot. It just came out of nowhere and was nothing but fanservice.
Without the queerbaiting, they still take attention away and people wanted us to to believe they’re nothing without the ship? They can actually stand on their own
Spoiler
funny thing is that seulrene have really not gotten anything overtly gay in any of the official content in recent years. if anything, it's wr that's been pushed into the fanservice spotlight recently. everything we've gotten has been them including each other in their own content or them making an effort to film extra content themselves (ISSS, seulgi fubao vlog, the vlogs they did for chiki and nye, etc.) I don't get the consistent queerbaiting accusations when even during monster era they could've queerbaited like crazy in their vlogs and aseulhan but they kept it classy
Spoiler
That's the thing. Seulrene have never queerbaited. Monster mv was very gay but it fit perfectly with the carmilla lore that fans were guessing. Apart from that they've never done anything that classifies as queerbaiting. Hell that's the whole reason they were always known as the divorced ship, because we really didn't get much "moments" so to speak. All they did during aseul was be their goofy selves and it's the same even now.
I agree with anon up there, the wr scene in the mv did not add shit to the plot. It just came out of nowhere and was nothing but fanservice.
Spoiler
even if it’s supposed to be for fanservice, it’s not doing what it’s supposed to do: attract attention
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:32 amunpopular mv theory
alright i rewatched and it looks like irene is the moon and w is the sun as evidenced by the pendant between them in bed. so it's probably different lore from chill kill. irene is also kissing the sun in the tapestry so it's obvious what they were trying to say with that. and i think seuljoyri are the followers based on that shot of them around the table staring at the girl escaping.
yeah so not sure why that pairing has been front and center lately but hey at least their shippers can't keep saying that seulrene are queerbaiters right...?
for some of the other questions, irene was indecisive but she picked seulgi immediately for this question
I was not expecting that reaction even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
Da lol yeah her face was funny but that's exactly her gay panic expression. These two will really never change. Also it's no wonder why Irene answered so quickly with this one. We have seen how Seulgi treats her in such a precious way
Cmiiw So they choose each other? I didn't watch the live. Didn't notice the time until its too late. I need to watch sr cut.. Huhu.. Talking about star. Sun is a star too. Why looking for another star when you already have sun? i really need to watch the live. I love how fast Irene's react. No brainer. Easy question.
I was not expecting that reaction even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
Da lol yeah her face was funny but that's exactly her gay panic expression. These two will really never change. Also it's no wonder why Irene answered so quickly with this one. We have seen how Seulgi treats her in such a precious way
Cmiiw So they choose each other? I didn't watch the live. Didn't notice the time until its too late. I need to watch sr cut.. Huhu.. Talking about star. Sun is a star too. Why looking for another star when you already have sun? i really need to watch the live. I love how fast Irene's react. No brainer. Easy question.
No Irene chose Seulgi. Seulgi chose Wendy. I think the remaining members chose them both as well
Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:00 pm
Why is there always so much tension when they just look at each other
is it just me or was seulgi leaning toward irene the whole video?
Nope, not just you. I noticed it right away. She tried to maintain a distance at times but istg they're like magnets
This is like her putting her arm around Irene and pulling so fast when she remembers she’s in public. And it’s funny because it’s only with each other, they have no problem holding eye contact or skinship with the others. Why the need to panic
even tho that's how usually Seulgi reacts when she's having a gay panic
i really need to watch the live. I love how fast Irene's react. No brainer. Easy question. 
